LFG tanking – chaining mobs

i am always impressed when tanks that are geared can chain pull mobs and do it well. hence as heals or dps in LFG, i usually check their health pool. if it is huge, they will normally chain pull to speed up the run. so i dont start to heal/dps when they charge the first mob, especially when i know there are other mobs nearby which they may chain. i wait and see what they will do. other dps are not so smart. i see them hit the  mob, and then they crash to their death in a split sec.

dps

otherwise, i wait until they stop charging, and then if i got a good aoe spell, i blow cds and start bombing away. their threat level will usually allow me to get away with it, since i dont have ICC geared toons (closest is 5.3 GS mage, zappel – when he goes full on dps, i have to watch it)

once, in H UK, my lock’s non-stop SoC gave me 10k dps! during the 1st series of chain pulls (the 2 at the start, and the left and right mobs). of course, that number dropped as the instance progressed. that was fun while it lasted.

of course, my fave class is deep frost mage (pyroblast) when i get a chain pulling tank. just blizzard away! safe and powderful! of course, on zappel fire spec, it is even more spectacular, since living bomb on a few targets, then dragon’s breath followed by the instant cast flamestrike. rocks! and once in a while, the instant cast pyro will proc and it’s like everything is on instant action. and i can also blizzard away after the flamestrike. most mobs dont survive that long for a full blizzard.

healing

i dont wait to look at the tank health bar once he has the mob aggro. i start to spam flash heals until his health is above 50% then i get the full heal cast going. why flash heals? just in case i get stunned or silenced, a flash heal takes less time and will buy some time. i oso pop the instant heals like PoM, Wild Growth or renew. and bubble if on priest. resto shammy has a easier time – earth shield at full strength before tank charges and it will be good for a while. then a fast riptide will keep his health up long enough for the chain or greater heals.

VoA – a world of weirdness

when forming a raid takes longer than the actual time to kill the 1 boss

it’s totally logical, and yet, really wasteful of effort. this raid has become a joke. it’s like onyxia but even easier. a 1-boss event, but the boss (toravon) is nothing compared to onyxia. just a tank and spank and range kill orbs thing. you dont even need to get out of the fire. what fire? even getting there is easy. portal from dal to WG fortress and back.

but it’s worth it

it’s sort of a reward for winning WG, that’s what it is. and 2 free EoFs for doing it. if the group wipes…. i dont know what to say. except maybe ROFL.

so simple, and 1 boss is all it takes

while it used to be a full raid event, now ppl just group for 1 boss, kill and disband. and then you are stuck with a 3-day raid blockout. so as the days go by, less and less groups can be formed cos the ppl all played out their 10 and 25 man versions already.

i guess this is like LFG weekly raid. however, that one can be quite challenging sometimes. if you get a simple one, then it is a one boss fight. otherwise, it can be several bosses to complete it. but each boss has their own fight characteristics and you need to get out of the fire, usually.

just form up, try and get at least 1 from each class so that the boss loot can go to someone instead of being wasted. but when it gets harder to get ppl, then u can have a 25-man raid with like 8 mages! just so that u can fill the raid and get it going. cos VoA has a 2-hr lifespan and after that you have to fight WG to get another chance at it.

LFG – vote kick issues

thanks to a variety of reasons, sometimes you need to vote kick someone from your party. i find that for myself, this generally happens because of:

1) dc. in the past, i used to wait like 2 min or even longer. but nowadays, ppl will kick in like a min or so. esp for dps. tanks and heals usually dc in the event of a wipe. cos it could be that due to dc, we wipe, or that because we wipe, the tank/heals give up and log out.

2) not geared for instance. this applies to ICC dungeons usually, esp H HoR. last night, i had a tank, only about 30k health. so he asked to be vote kicked so that he wont need to waste time queuing again. however, a dps refuse to kick him, saying he should leave on his own. but he refused to leave and became a squatter. since i was playing dps, i left group. that was a no-win situation.

3) rude ppl. some ppl are just plain rude and deserve to be kicked. however, if they are in a group, then u will end up being vote-kicked out. happened to me before. had to put the whole group on /ignore after that. it would not be useful to run with them in the future. in some other cases, like a duo, if u vote kicked the rude dps, then the heals will just pop off saying since his friend left, he had to go too. i oso put these ppl on /ignore.

4) underperfoming ppl. some dps are just so bad, they get vote kicked. that would be huntards and others who pull mobs but cant tank them. but that is pretty rare nowadays. more often, it is the tank or heals that get kicked cos they didnt do their job. esp for demanding instances like H HoR. once we changed 2 healers before we found one that could and did the job. we kicked a pally heals whose beacon of light heals total were half his flash heals, meaning he didnt know how to use it.

5) afk ppl. ppl who say brb 2 min and 5 min on they are still not back. nowadays, ppl wont wait even 2 min so this sort of situation is becoming rare.

Hall of Stone guide

seen too many fail runs at HoS, so here’s my guide.

2 mobs lead up to a circle of multiple pat mobs and giants.

circle of pats

clear the whole circle, cos if u want the end boss of the instance you will need to do it sooner or later. i prefer to do it sooner. as the pats overlap, tanks need to time their pulls or be ready to pick up chain mobs. otherwise the healer usually gets it. when healer dies, its usually a wipe and then everything goes crappy. cos tank or the heals will just leave group.

after that, go up the stairs and clear 1 pat mob.

crossroads – short vs long version of instance

the next is a giant on the left, and some shardlings on the right. most tanks will pull both, but some will just kill the giant. cos they are going for the short version of the instance (event+end boss) and are not going to kill the stone and lady giants.

the long version is usually stone, lady, event then end boss. so the tank will leave the 3 pat mobs ahead for later, and enter the stone tunnel on the right.

long version starts here, for short version, skip to “continue to event” section

boomkin warning

for the first few mobs in the tunnel, if u have a boomkin in the party, tell him not to starfall. it will actually aggro the boss since the start of the tunnel is pretty close to where the boss is (but he is on a higher level and can only be aggroed by starfall which has a massive aoe radius). if u aggro boss now, your party will wipe.

if everything goes well, you will clear mobs and shardlings and 2 dark rune controllers to the stone boss. make sure you or your dps can interrupt the controllers’ mind control. else someone usually dies under MC.

stone boss fight

tank should charge boss and then stand next to a wall so he does not get knocked down to the lower level and have to run the length of the tunnel back to the boss. every once in a while, boss will do a aoe knockback followed by a freeze of all party members. members close together will take more aoe damage than if they were out of range of all others. range should spread out and be max dist from boss. if a party has too many melee dps then they should not run back to boss after the knockback, but to wait until the freeze and explosion is over. some groups dont care and just count on the heals to keep everyone alive. in one case, the healer even died from the aoe explosion cos he was too close to melee dps!

continue to next boss

drop off the boss level and run back out of the stone tunnel to the crossroads.

unless epic tank, 2 LoS pulls (mobs have casters) and then charge 1 mob should clear the 3 pat mobs leading to the lady giant boss.

clear the rest of the mobs to the lady boss.

lady boss fight

tank and spank, while avoiding black circles on the ground. every once in a while, the boss casts a stun on everyone. the stun is pretty long unless u get hit and get out of it. so tanks will step into the black circle for a split sec b4 the stun, and by taking damage in the circle, the tank can quickly get out of the stun and out of the circle and back to tanking boss.

continue to event (or the short version)

run back to crossroads, then clear the final path, which starts with a giant pat, followed by 2 other golems and then 4 golems in an open area. after that talk to the npc to start the event.

follow the npc and kill off the 3 giants. if he dies you have to wait for him to respawn and restart the event. otherwise, talk to him again to start the phased event.

event phased fight

objective: keep npc alive.

phases:

  1. pats on left, tank and spank
  2. pats on left and right, tank and spank
  3. pats on left and right, and avoid a laser beam that hits very hard. if you are halfway casting or bashing some mob, break off and get away from the beam immediately! it hits that hard!

continue to end boss

after the 5 min event, loot chest, talk to the npc, then run back to the starting circle and clear whatever mobs u didnt clear at the start. hence i recommend clearing all pats around the circle, right from the start.

talk to the npc to open the door. make sure everyone is inside before charging boss. i have seen healers left outside and the group wipe. dps left outside is fine if the rest of the dps is in ICC gear.

end boss fight

tank charge and pull boss to the middle of the zone so that he can block off any adds hitting on the healer. healer and range should be at max dist so as to avoid the boss lightning nova.

pros can go for achievement. which require tank and healer to survive many novas and for dps to not kill boss or hit oozes until 5 of them combined and then they can be killed.

show me the money

or, you cant have your dough and cake it.

for altoholics, having gold is always an issue. you want to gift epic flying to those alts that need to fly around regularly – miners and herbalists, and even JCs to do their daily JC quest fast.

having gold means you can buy stuff off AH instead of farming it yourself too.

some ppl play the AH, but i dont have the patience for that. i usually sell off stuff i dont want myself at near bottom prices cos i dont want to keep monitoring the AH. i have other things to do. if something doesnt sell and doesnt look like its going to be sold even after a couple of listings, i either keep it for a long time (like next xpac is out, and ppl need the item again but by then no one is farming them) or else vendor/DE it if i think the item is overstocked for posterity.

so i make a little money off AH, and it helps that i dont buy the expensive stuff from AH. and i vendor trash (i pick up everything unless i dont have bag space). plus the quests and LFG, it’s a slow but sure gathering of gold. i dont have a chicken that lays golden eggs.

so whenever i splash the cash for some expensive item, like epic flying, i have to consider it carefully.

currently, i think i will need epic flying for 2 toons on BWR. Muzzleshot will need it since he is miner and engineer, but i dont know who i should buy it for on the other account.

as for firetree, there are no more major expenses until cat, so every penny i earn is saved for that rainy day in cat.

farming one thing or another

ok, i have to admit it, im a farm-aholic. with good justification (or so i think). some ppl just level to 80 without profession, but i think most ppl will do the 2 primary profs along the way or at L80 or even re-prof. cos unless its a farming prof, there is a little bit of benefit. and for someone like me with so many alts on a particular realm, i have all the profs so i can craft stuff for all and any.

however levelling a prof and putting that prof to use does require a ton of material for each prof on each alt. hence i do a lot of farming. some of it is incidental. levelling mats are usually acquired when i am levelling my alts anyway. you run along a path to a quest objective, since u are on a miner alt and a vein pops up on your mini map nearby, stop and just pick it up, and continue along your way. of course, that will never suffice. if it is some cheap stuff i can get off AH, i’d use this shortcut. however, i dont have a lot of gold (too many alts that still dont have epic flying – 5k gold), so i’d rather farm it myself. i stop questing, and just do a few runs around a zone to pick up the necessary mats. that may or may not be done with the same alt. if an alt needs to level his mining skill, then i may use him for the zone farming. but if the alt already does not need that, then i will usually bring in a higher level alt and farm the zone in faster time. high level toons dont aggro much in lower level zones.

since all my target alts are now L80, i dont do incidental stuff anymore. it’s more specific questing. for some of the rep prof rewards. and if i farm a zone specifically, it is cos some of their profs are still in need of levelling. not so much their main 2 profs. as long as i got them to 425, its good enough for cat. the effort to hit max would cost too much in mats. nevertheless, i acquired too much mats for enchanting so it was easy to hit 450 on all my ench toons. in the case of JC and alchemy, it is mandatory to hit 450 to be able to benefit from it, so i did that. for BS, as i make epic gear for the toons, i get it to max easy. inscription is oso easy to hit max, along with tailoring (making epic bags). LW is kinda stuck around 440. i didnt need the L200 epic cloaks cos i farmed L232 cloaks from the last Midsummer festival, but i might make some of the L200 epic leather gear for Blackstealth. or bags. Engineering is the worst for maxing out. i never max out engineering. i just dont see any point there. i keep it around the 440 level too. Engineering is more for some self-buffs and making bullets/arrows for hunters. haha.

2 is better than 1

playing wow over the weekend, i had some buddy time. my long lost buddy (to modern warfare 2) decided to take back his account for a couple of hours and we took a couple of our toons on BWR for H runs.

the realm LFG queue is strange. there are more tanks than healers. so i logged in timeforfun and my buddy queued as dps: xbowstrike, muzzleshot and pyroblast. his fave is xbow, since the GS is 4.7k and he hits really well in SV spec. i tried to persuade him to play xbow as BM (dual spec) but he didnt like it. however, as muzzleshot with 1k GS less, he didnt enjoy it so much, not topping dps meters. muzzle is SV only. finally, as pyro, he had fun with both specs – arcane and frost. diff spec for diff dungeon. he did something silly but works – frostbolt and cone of cold, like some melee toon cos cone has a short range. he still hit pretty hard. but nothing beats blizzarding.

am having fun. are you?

last night was a blast! basically, i was playing missmisty again for rep, and shortnacity to level his 2h mace skill for tanking.

i oso took moodykat tanking with her new 2h mace skilled titansteel destroyer in H FoS! haha. actually, she cant tank H FoS. it’s the party that carried the tank! ROFL!!!!!! the healer asked, can the tank wear her tanking gear, and i replied, she is! lucky i got a pro shammy healer. DKs work best with earth shield. even so, the dps will take aggro and they were the best – burn down whoever they aggro and give me more time to grab the aggro of the rest of the mob. we made it to the end cos they burned down the mobs so fast i hardly took too much damage. it was my first time tanking with ANY toon in H FoS. Everstone had done that b4, but that was my buddy playing his fave tank so even though he was undergeared he knew the tricks to pull off. warrior tanks oso have more mitigation, and his toon had tons of it (from naxx and ulduar gear)

as for missmisty, i spent her triumph badges on rep. so she got exalted with wyrm. so i flew there to buy her epic boots. so now just left Ebon Hold rep (half way to exalted) – so will have to do a combo of rep quests and LFG queues to complete it.

finally, training shortnacity to use the 2h-mace. Ellonis made the titansteel destroyer, but he had to train 2h-mace. however, last night there was a shortage of dps so he was constantly popping into instances to run. but since he has no friendly rep with any of the tabard factions, he was only getting rep for vanguard, which didnt have anything useful for him rep wise. so i bought some rep tokens with his EoTs, then bought the wrym and KT tabards. he is now running instances with the wrym tabard. there is something nice for him at exalted. then i flew him over to SB and farmed sabers. or rather, they farmed him. haha. miss-dodge until he levelled the skill to 200+. left him in SB to continue his training another time.

in LFGs, there is a world of diff between the battlegroups for firetree and BWR. moodykat has better gear than shortnacity, but do less dps in LFGs. it goes to show the maturity of the group, i.e. there are more high geared toons in the firetree battlegroup. however, since both are mostly in def tier gear and blood tanking talents, they generate less dps than a blood dps DK like dethnyte, who can keep above 2k dps even with the pros.

repping with missmisty

went on a rep run with missmisty, the last toon i need to get northrend rep to exalted for head and shoulders ench on firetree for that account. still lacking in Ebon Hold and Wrymrest Accord

so i queued for LFG and did Ebon Hold quests and dailies. during LFG, i would be in my Wrym tabard so i get rep for that.

so by the end of my rep run, she is rev with Wrym and honored with Ebon. and have around 45 EoTs. will use them to fast rep up tonight, and then see what else needs to be done.

once her rep is up, i will take her around to get stuff. like buy epic boots for her from Wyrmrest exalted rep.

then i can focus on my other neglected action item: levelling 2h mace for my 4 DKs (of which moodykat is the only one properly skilled up)

after server maintenance – moodykat on a rampage thru LFG

last night was not a usual maintenance night for me. i would usually sleep early. however, i was downloading something really slowly. so i kept my download company and watch movies, etc. until maintenance was over. and then i logged in moodykat to train her in maces (1h and 2h). cos opheilia made her the titansteel destroyer and she will need to level 2h mace in order to tank with it.

the following activities occurred last night (read chronologically from bottom up):

4 hours, 58 minutes ago
Obtained [Bloodshed Band]. (Equipped)

4 hours, 58 minutes ago
Completed step [Left Ring] of achievement [Epic].

5 hours, 1 minute ago
Obtained [Corroded Skeleton Key].

5 hours, 5 minutes ago
2 Keristrasza kills (Heroic Nexus).

5 hours, 25 minutes ago
Completed step [First Trinket] of achievement [Epic].

5 hours, 27 minutes ago
Earned the achievement The Pit of Saron for 10 points.

5 hours, 27 minutes ago
1 Scourgelord Tyrannus kills (Heroic Pit of Saron).

5 hours, 27 minutes ago
Earned the achievement Heroic: The Pit of Saron for 10 points.

5 hours, 30 minutes ago
Earned the achievement Don’t Look Up for 10 points.

5 hours, 40 minutes ago
Obtained [Ick's Rotting Thumb].

5 hours, 41 minutes ago
1 Ick and Krick kills (Heroic Pit of Saron).

5 hours, 47 minutes ago
Earned the achievement 500 Quests Completed for 40 points.

5 hours, 48 minutes ago
1 Forgemaster Garfrost kills (Heroic Pit of Saron).

5 hours, 54 minutes ago
Earned the achievement Master of Arms for 25 points. (for polearm, not the 2h mace)

6 hours, 17 minutes ago
Completed step [Neck] of achievement [Epic].

6 hours, 19 minutes ago
Obtained [The Warlord's Depravity]. (Equipped)

6 hours, 20 minutes ago
1 The Black Knight kills (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Completed step [The Black Knight] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Earned the achievement I’ve Had Worse for 10 points.

6 hours, 20 minutes ago
Completed step [The Black Knight] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Completed step [Herod] of achievement [Argent Confessor].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Completed step [Argent Confessor Paletress] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago
1 Victories over Argent Confessor Paletress (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Completed step [Argent Confessor Paletress] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Completed step [Legs] of achievement [Epic].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago
Obtained [Legplates of Relentless Onslaught]. (Equipped)

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Completed step [Deathstalker Visceri] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Completed step [Zul'tore] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Completed step [Runok Wildmane] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
1 Victories over Shaman Champion (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Completed step [Zul'tore] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
1 Victories over Rogue Champion (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Completed step [Runok Wildmane] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
1 Victories over Hunter Champion (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 27 minutes ago
Completed step [Deathstalker Visceri] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Obtained [Titansteel Destroyer]. (Equipped)

something queer about armory database:

if u had read thru the activities, it seems to be missing some achievements. cos it is obvious moodykat entered a few instances for the 1st time last night. and so completing it should be an achievement, but the ToC dungeon didnt register as having “Earned” an achievement. Just:

  • Completed step [The Black Knight] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].
  • Completed step [The Black Knight] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

However, PoS is considered as an achievement:

  • Earned the achievement Heroic: The Pit of Saron for 10 points.
  • Earned the achievement The Pit of Saron for 10 points.
4 hours, 58 minutes agoObtained [Bloodshed Band](Equipped)
4 hours, 58 minutes ago

Completed step [Left Ring] of achievement [Epic].

5 hours, 1 minute ago

Obtained [Corroded Skeleton Key].

5 hours, 5 minutes ago

2 Keristrasza kills (Heroic Nexus).

5 hours, 25 minutes ago

Completed step [First Trinket] of achievement [Epic].

5 hours, 27 minutes ago

Earned the achievement The Pit of Saron for 10 points.

5 hours, 27 minutes ago

1 Scourgelord Tyrannus kills (Heroic Pit of Saron).

5 hours, 27 minutes ago

Earned the achievement Heroic: The Pit of Saron for 10 points.

5 hours, 30 minutes ago

Earned the achievement Don’t Look Up for 10 points.

5 hours, 40 minutes ago

Obtained [Ick's Rotting Thumb].

5 hours, 41 minutes ago

1 Ick and Krick kills (Heroic Pit of Saron).

5 hours, 47 minutes ago

Earned the achievement 500 Quests Completed for 40 points.

5 hours, 48 minutes ago

1 Forgemaster Garfrost kills (Heroic Pit of Saron).

5 hours, 54 minutes ago

Earned the achievement Master of Arms for 25 points.

6 hours, 17 minutes ago

Completed step [Neck] of achievement [Epic].

6 hours, 19 minutes ago

Obtained [The Warlord's Depravity](Equipped)

6 hours, 20 minutes ago

1 The Black Knight kills (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 20 minutes ago

Completed step [The Black Knight] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 20 minutes ago

Earned the achievement I’ve Had Worse for 10 points.

6 hours, 20 minutes ago

Completed step [The Black Knight] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago

Completed step [Herod] of achievement [Argent Confessor].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago

Completed step [Argent Confessor Paletress] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago

1 Victories over Argent Confessor Paletress (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 22 minutes ago

Completed step [Argent Confessor Paletress] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago

Completed step [Legs] of achievement [Epic].

6 hours, 22 minutes ago

Obtained [Legplates of Relentless Onslaught](Equipped)

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

Completed step [Deathstalker Visceri] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

Completed step [Zul'tore] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

Completed step [Runok Wildmane] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

1 Victories over Shaman Champion (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

Completed step [Zul'tore] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

1 Victories over Rogue Champion (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

Completed step [Runok Wildmane] of achievement [Trial of the Champion].

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

1 Victories over Hunter Champion (Heroic Trial of the Champion).

6 hours, 27 minutes ago

Completed step [Deathstalker Visceri] of achievement [Heroic: Trial of the Champion].

7 hours, 36 minutes ago

Obtained [Tita